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只看该作者 15楼 发表于: 2008-04-22
引用第11楼bluedoctor82于2008-04-22 12:29发表的  :我是搞生命科学的,82年出生,上海做的研究,发过nature一篇,其余多篇sci,影响因子都在10以上,现在哈佛做信号转导方面的博士后.......


牛,敬礼,差距不是一点半点的
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只看该作者 16楼 发表于: 2008-04-22
上面讨论的作者署名很热闹。其他对于此项工作有贡献的人员如果对于此文署名有争议,也完全可以给JAMA主编发信,投诉作者没有将其挂上去。
如果没有参与想挂上去的话,不仅仅消化科的领导可以要求,那么医院的领导,医学院,山大,卫生厅的领导也可以加盟。JAMA, NEJM署名几十个也不是少见的。
这要看程博士怎么处理上下关系了。上面所说的“中国国情”和“排名规则”看样子应该简称为“中国国情的排名规则”。
看来程博果然不简单,敢于challenge这些人和规则。
希望后面还有更多的好文章。
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只看该作者 17楼 发表于: 2008-04-22
引用第9楼cccccc于2008-04-21 21:53发表的  :6楼读者是才疏学浅,好好学习WHO注册条例,还要知道作者的排名原则,深为在国外的中国人和山东医学院校友,我为该篇论文而自豪,JAMA不是随便发表论文的,希望你好好学习,不要窝里斗。

JAMA和NEJM真不是随便发的。

呵呵
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只看该作者 18楼 发表于: 2008-04-24
引用第11楼bluedoctor82于2008-04-22 12:29发表的  :


我是搞生命科学的,82年出生,上海做的研究,发过nature一篇,其余多篇sci,影响因子都在10以上,现在哈佛做信号转导方面的博士后
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既然如此之牛,你为什么不告诉大家你的文章的出处呢,即杂志的名称、卷、期、页码。
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只看该作者 19楼 发表于: 2008-04-24
引用第18楼liuxb于2008-04-24 15:18发表的  :引用第11楼bluedoctor82于2008-04-22 12:29发表的  :我是搞生命科学的,82年出生,上海做的研究,发过nature一篇,其余多篇sci,影响因子都在10以上,现在哈佛做信号转导方面的博士后..............


把你发表的文章list出来呀
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只看该作者 20楼 发表于: 2008-04-24
好高兴看到这样的帖子
虽然大家有些争论
即便是争论
主题也是学习或者学术相关的话题
彼此之间无恶意
大家尽量平心静气 莫动肝火
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只看该作者 21楼 发表于: 2008-04-24
引用第13楼bluedoctor82于2008-04-22 12:29发表的  :,.......


人家不是说在休假,已经去北京了
不知是哪位校友的同学
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只看该作者 22楼 发表于: 2008-04-24
仔细去搜寻这位牛人的踪迹,终不得
其实就生命科学而言,像他(她)那样的,在中国,已经逐渐开始多了起来
中国科学院上海生命科学研究院里的大部分PI几乎都有ta那样或者比ta更牛的经历
虽然是做医生的,因为我有一个朋友在那的缘故,恰好,他也是发了好几篇10以上的SCI,但他在他们所里面是几乎是最差的学生,所以我也经常去浏览上海生命科学院和NIBS的网站,看那些只能让我仰视的偶像们如王晓东、蒲慕名们的故事
以后陆续贴出一些人来,共同学习
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只看该作者 23楼 发表于: 2008-07-03
热烈祝贺齐鲁医院论文创作再上新台阶!照此趋势,最快一年,最多5年,齐鲁医院将会有CNS文章发表。

人有多大胆,地有多大产。
不怕做不到,就怕不敢做。
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只看该作者 24楼 发表于: 2009-04-29
这个好像被证实是造假了~~
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只看该作者 25楼 发表于: 2009-04-29
引用第24楼xqwang1017于2009-04-29 00:18发表的  :这个好像被证实是造假了~~

哪里来的消息?
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只看该作者 26楼 发表于: 2009-04-29
被撤稿了http://www.dxy.cn/bbs/post/view?bid=45&id=14479581&sty=1&tpg=1&ppg=1&age=0#14479581

Retraction: Cheng B-Q, et al. Chemoembolization combined with radiofrequency ablation for patients with hepatocellular carcinoma larger than 3 cm: a randomized controlled trial. JAMA. 2008;299(14):1669-1677.
Catherine D. DeAngelis, MD, MPH; Phil B. Fontanarosa, MD, MBA

JAMA. 2009;301(13)doi:10.1001/jama.2009.640).

In the April 9, 2008, issue of JAMA, an article entitled "Chemoembolization Combined With Radiofrequency Ablation for Patients With Hepatocellular Carcinoma Larger Than 3 cm: A Randomized Controlled Trial" was published by Dr Cheng and colleagues.1 We subsequently received information that raised concerns about the integrity of the data and the veracity of the report. We conducted an extensive internal investigation into these concerns, contacted the primary author of the study, and also notified Shandong University, the authors' institution, expressing our concerns about the conduct of the trial and the integrity of the data. Based on the responses we received from the authors, we continued to have concerns about the validity and integrity of the study, and therefore requested a formal investigation by the authors' institution.

On March 23, 2009, we received a report from Yun Zhang, MD, PhD, Vice President, Shandong University, and Dean, Shandong University School of Medicine. Dean Yun Zhang indicated that "it took a long time to make a complete investigation" because the university "organized a group of experts in the field of hepatology to investigate the article" by Cheng et al and these experts "thoroughly investigated the protocol, ethics, medical records, methods, statistics, results, and conclusions relevant to this article." In addition, this investigative group carefully studied the comments of the JAMA editors and reviewers and previous versions of the manuscript reporting the results of this study.

The report by the dean indicates the following:

"Based on these investigations, we have drawn the following conclusions:

The protocol and ethics of this study were not submitted to the Academic Committee of Shandong University Qilu Hospital for approval. Dr Cheng wrote and submitted this manuscript during his postdoctoral training in Sweden without informing our institution.

This study was not a well designed, randomized and controlled clinical trial despite the fact that chemoembolization and radiofrequency ablation for patients with hepatocellular carcinoma have been performed in Shandong University Qilu Hospital for many years. Therefore, conclusions drawn from this study are not valid.

Because of these unscientific behaviors, we suggest that the article by Dr Cheng should be withdrawn from JAMA.

We apologize for any negative impacts on JAMA caused by publication of this paper. We have submitted a report on this serious issue to the Academic Committee of Shandong University and will keep you informed of further decisions on Cheng's mistakes from our university."

Accordingly, based on this report, we hereby retract this article from JAMA and from the medical literature. We appreciate that readers of JAMA brought their concerns about this article to our attention and their patience in allowing us to investigate, and we are grateful to the dean at Shandong University School of Medicine for the thorough and detailed investigation and professional response to our concerns. The cooperation and professional actions of all involved in this inquiry allowed for a complete investigation. This is an example of how maintaining scientific integrity for published articles requires a team effort by readers, journal editors, and the system of academic oversight.

AUTHOR INFORMATION

Published Online: April 20, 2009 (doi:10.1001/jama.2009.640).

Financial Disclosures: None reported.

Editorials represent the opinions of the authors and JAMA and not those of the American Medical Association.

Author Affiliations: Dr DeAngelis (cathy.deangelis@jama-archives.org) is Editor in Chief and Dr Fontanarosa is Executive Deputy Editor, JAMA.

REFERENCE

1. Cheng B-Q, Jia C-Q, Tao C-T; et al. Chemoembolization combined with radiofrequency ablation for patients with hepatocellular carcinoma larger than 3 cm: a randomized controlled trial. JAMA. 2008;299(14):1669-1677. FREE FULL TEXT
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只看该作者 27楼 发表于: 2009-04-29
引用第26楼doctor_li于2009-04-29 21:56发表的  :被撤稿了http://www.dxy.cn/bbs/post/view?bid=45&id=14479581&sty=1&tpg=1&ppg=1&age=0#14479581Retraction: Cheng B-Q, et al. Chemoembolization combined with radiofrequency ablation for patients with hepatocellular carcinoma larger than 3 cm: a randomized controlled trial. JAMA. 2008;299(14):1669-1677.Catherine D. DeAngelis, MD, MPH; Phil B. Fontanarosa, MD, MBA .......

这下热闹了,学校和医院现在又一推三不知了,那文章又是程博士一个当替罪羊了阿
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只看该作者 28楼 发表于: 2009-04-30
JAMA如果要查的话,在审稿的时候就应该查了.
“Conflict of interest ”没搞好。

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只看该作者 29楼 发表于: 2009-04-30
撤稿已经成定论了,张运都说了,文章方案和伦理都没有经齐鲁医院的学术委员会审批
刚才上JAMA查了一下该文章,确实被撤了,
这事怎么轮到山大的头上了,好不容易发一篇那么高IF的RCT(Randomized Controlled Trial )文章,竟然是假的
程老师已经升正高了,不知道他怎么去面对学校,医院的人,实在是难办
以后山大发表这样的文章肯定会受影响
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